JASMIN: My name’s Jasmin, I’m 15 years old and I love music. It’s really my life because, you know, I love playing and I love listening to it and I don’t think I could live without it. I first started playing guitar when I was 7 and I first started singing when I was 9. I wrote my first song when I was 11 and it was about being yourself because everyone else was already taken and I got it from a quote from the Lonely Planet book.One day I’d like to write songs that people could reflect on afterwards, that have an impact on them and music that would have really deep and meaningful lyrics. To get some tips on how to do that I’m going to talk to one of Australia’s most well-known songwriters. Paul Kelly’s an artist that like all Australian’s know, like a household name in Australia, a legend. I’m really excited to meet him. It’s going to be so cool.JASMIN: How old were you when you started song writing?PAUL: 21, which is much later than you. when did you start?JASMIN: I was 11.PAUL: 11. I didn’t really start playing guitar until I was about 18 but I wanted to be a writer, so I was writing like prose poems, but they weren’t songs and one day when I was 21, I wrote a song and I thought, I can do this.JASMIN: What do you write first? Do you write your words, or do you write your music first?PAUL: I used to always write the music first and that’s probably the main way I write songs. It’s more just fooling around with chords on a guitar or the piano and then singing gibberish is basically what I do. Sort of singing sounds then getting words to fit it.JASMIN: What’s it like hearing your song on the radio for the first time? How did you feel?PAUL: Very excited. I still remember listening to "Before Too Long" on the radio. I was driving with the band and it just came on the radio and we just went nuts started singing along really loud.JASMIN: Where do you get your ideas for your song writing and your lyric writing?PAUL: Well a lot of them from other songs or from things I read or from poems or things people say. I think song writing is just a matter of keeping your ears open and you know, if I think of a line for a song. I try to write it down straight away because otherwise I forget it.JASMIN: Who’s your favourite writer?PAUL: If I said my favourite writer it’d have to be Shakespeare, William Shakespeare who I first discovered at school.JASMIN: Is there any songs you’re really proud of and want to talk to us about?PAUL: Well I guess, the songs that I still play that I never get sick of playing - how to make gravy. It’s an unusual song so I like it. I have no idea how it sort of happened and It sort of breaks some rules, formula rules of song writing but it still works. I like that one.JASMIN: Do you want to have a little play together?PAUL: I’ve never done a harmony to that one before so that’s good, thank you.