When we do a book, it starts with an idea I have. Sometimes with something visual or maybe a story idea. Sometimes just a line of text. I’ll work up a book dummy and from that moment on I am constantly running stuff by her. As we get into the actual book she picks the font (always something better than I would have imagined), she designs the cover, the flaps, we talk about endpapers, etc. And while I am making the art I am sending her spreads. She might move the type from where I thought it would look best to the other side of the page and I’ll adjust my art accordingly. Sometimes I’ll say I want to make such and such image really big and she’ll work around my image. It’s very much a back and forth kind of thing. Like when we play ping pong. Except in ping pong, there is no collaboration. It is very one-sided. I always crush it.